APAR status
Closed as unreproducible in next release.
Error description
SCENARIO: When creating a welding symbol in drafting, the finish contour and finish method (for any side) cannot be specified if there is no joint type specified for that side. 1- Create a new empty drawing 2- Click on the "welding symbol" icon 3- Click on the screen until the "welding creation" dialog box appears (normally two clicks). 4- From the first dropdown box "BELOW" the reference line, select any joint Symbol. 5- From the second dropdown box "ABOVE" the reference line, select any type of contour, either flat, concave or convex. 6- From the third dropdown box "ABOVE" the reference line, select any method of finish. . Problem: Notice that the contour symbol and finish symbol do not appear. They should appear above the reference line (see the "desired.jpg" and the "spec_cpw24.jpg" for an example). Note: the problem is still present if you reverse the case: if the joint type is ABOVE the reference line and the contour and finish symbols are BELOW the reference line. . Hello people. I will try to explain more what we are trying to achieve: First, please have a look at the file "spec_cpw24.jpg" that was supplied with this PMR, and look at the sketch 4.4.1.2.4. It should help understand the text below: The arrow is pointing on the top of the part. This is because we only allow welding to be done from the top, we do not allow to weld from the bottom. This is why there is no "weld joint" symbol on the "other side". The sketch shows that the weld is going all the way through the part. This means that there will be welding material protruding from the bottom. We need to control the shape and dimension of that material. This is why we need to specify a finish contour and a finishing method on the bottom of the part. Note: the sketch supplied was scanned from the "CPW24" which is the official document we use to control welding for all the aircraft engines we manufacture. . Update From LESOURD Jerome Hello Level1, could you explain me what is the "CPW24"? Is it a norm/standard? derived from ANSI? What is the standard used by the customer? Thanks for your cooperation. Best Regards, Jerome LESOURD. *** Electronic update by customer *** Hi, The "CPW24" is an internal document used in the comany that explains in detail the requirements for production of welds on all of the comany engine parts. It is based on ANSI standards and on the AWS (American Welding Society) A2.4 document (available from the American Welding Society, 2501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, FL 33125). .
Local fix
Problem summary
Contour and finish welding symbols do not appear SCENARIO: When creating a welding symbol in drafting, the finish contour and finish method (for any side) cannot be specified if there is no joint type specified for that side. 1- Create a new empty drawing 2- Click on the "welding symbol" icon 3- Click on the screen until the "welding creation" dialog box appears (normally two clicks). 4- From the first dropdown box "BELOW" the reference line, select any joint Symbol. 5- From the second dropdown box "ABOVE" the reference line, select any type of contour, either flat, concave or convex. 6- From the third dropdown box "ABOVE" the reference line, select any method of finish. . Problem: Notice that the contour symbol and finish symbol do not appear. They should appear above the reference line (see the "desired.jpg" and the "spec_cpw24.jpg" for an example). Note: the problem is still present if you reverse the case: if the joint type is ABOVE the reference line and the contour and finish symbols are BELOW the reference line. . Hello people. I will try to explain more what we are trying to achieve: First, please have a look at the file "spec_cpw24.jpg" that was supplied with this PMR, and look at the sketch 4.4.1.2.4. It should help understand the text below: The arrow is pointing on the top of the part. This is because we only allow welding to be done from the top, we do not allow to weld from the bottom. This is why there is no "weld joint" symbol on the "other side". The sketch shows that the weld is going all the way through the part. This means that there will be welding material protruding from the bottom. We need to control the shape and dimension of that material. This is why we need to specify a finish contour and a finishing method on the bottom of the part. Note: the sketch supplied was scanned from the "CPW24" which is the official document we use to control welding for all the aircraft engines we manufacture. . Update From LESOURD Jerome Hello Level1, could you explain me what is the "CPW24"? Is it a norm/standard? derived from ANSI? What is the standard used by the customer? Thanks for your cooperation. Best Regards, Jerome LESOURD. *** Electronic update by customer *** Hi, The "CPW24" is an internal document used in xxx that explains in detail the requirements for production of welds on all xxx engine parts. It is based on ANSI standards and on the AWS (American Welding Society) A2.4 document (available from the American Welding Society, 2501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, FL 33125). .
Problem conclusion
Temporary fix
Comments
THE PROBLEM WAS SUBMITTED ON : CATIA VERSION * RELEASE *. THIS PROBLEM IS NOT REPRODUCIBLE ON : CATIA VERSION 5 RELEASE 14 GA level The correction has already been delivered .
APAR Information
APAR number
HD12865
Reported component name
CATIA V5/NT/200
Reported component ID
569151000
Reported release
510
Status
CLOSED UR1
PE
NoPE
HIPER
NoHIPER
Special Attention
NoSpecatt
Submitted date
2003-10-20
Closed date
2003-12-12
Last modified date
2006-07-13
APAR is sysrouted FROM one or more of the following:
APAR is sysrouted TO one or more of the following:
Fix information
Fixed component name
CATIA V5/NT/200
Fixed component ID
569151000
Applicable component levels
R513 PSN
UP
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Document Information
Modified date:
13 July 2006