HD12865: CONTOUR AND FINISH WELDING SYMBOLS DO NOT APPEAR

APAR status

• Closed as unreproducible in next release.

Error description

• SCENARIO:
  When creating a welding symbol in drafting, the
  finish contour and finish method (for any side)
  cannot be specified if there is no joint type
  specified for that side.
  
  1- Create a new empty
  drawing
  2- Click on the "welding symbol"
  icon
  3- Click on the screen until the "welding
  creation" dialog box appears (normally two
  clicks).
  4- From the first dropdown box "BELOW" the
  reference line,  select any joint
  Symbol.
  5- From the second dropdown box "ABOVE" the
  reference line,  select any type of contour, either
  flat, concave or convex.
  6- From the third dropdown box "ABOVE" the
  reference line,  select any method of
  finish.
  .
  
  Problem: Notice that the contour symbol and finish
  symbol do not appear. They should appear above
  the reference line (see the "desired.jpg" and
  the "spec_cpw24.jpg" for an
  example).
  
  
  Note: the problem is still present if you reverse the
  case:  if the joint type is ABOVE the reference line
  and the contour and finish symbols are BELOW the
  reference line.
  .
  Hello people.
  I will try to explain more what we are trying
  to achieve:
  
  First, please have a look at the
  file "spec_cpw24.jpg" that
  was supplied with this PMR, and look at the sketch
  4.4.1.2.4. It should help understand the text
  below:
  
  The arrow is pointing on the top of the part. This
  is because we only allow welding to be done from
  the top, we
  do not allow to weld from the bottom. This is why
  there is no "weld joint" symbol on the "other
  side".
  
  The sketch shows that the weld is going all the
  way through the part. This means that there will be
  welding material protruding from the bottom. We
  need to control the shape and dimension of that
  material. This is why we
  need to specify a finish contour and a finishing
  method on the bottom of the
  part.
  Note: the sketch supplied was scanned from
  the "CPW24" which  is the official document we use
  to control welding for all the aircraft engines we
  manufacture.
  .
  Update From LESOURD Jerome
  Hello
  Level1,
  
  could you explain me what is
  the "CPW24"?
  Is it a norm/standard? derived from
  ANSI?
  What is the standard used by the
  customer?
  Thanks for your
  cooperation.
  Best Regards, Jerome
  LESOURD.
  *** Electronic update by
  customer
  ***
  
  Hi,
  The "CPW24" is an internal document used in the comany
  that explains in detail the
  requirements for production of
  welds on all of the comany engine parts.
  It is based on ANSI standards and on the AWS
  (American Welding
  Society) A2.4
  document (available from the American Welding
  Society,
  2501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, FL
  33125).
  
  .
  

Local fix

Problem summary

• Contour and finish welding symbols do not appear
  SCENARIO:
  When creating a welding symbol in drafting, the
  finish contour and finish method (for any side)
  cannot be specified if there is no joint type
  specified for that side.
  
  1- Create a new empty
  drawing
  2- Click on the "welding symbol"
  icon
  3- Click on the screen until the "welding
  creation" dialog box appears (normally two
  clicks).
  4- From the first dropdown box "BELOW" the
  reference line,  select any joint
  Symbol.
  5- From the second dropdown box "ABOVE" the
  reference line,  select any type of contour, either
  flat, concave or convex.
  6- From the third dropdown box "ABOVE" the
  reference line,  select any method of
  finish.
  .
  
  Problem: Notice that the contour symbol and finish
  symbol do not appear. They should appear above
  the reference line (see the "desired.jpg" and
  the "spec_cpw24.jpg" for an
  example).
  
  
  Note: the problem is still present if you reverse the
  case:  if the joint type is ABOVE the reference line
  and the contour and finish symbols are BELOW the
  reference line.
  .
  Hello people.
  I will try to explain more what we are trying
  to achieve:
  
  First, please have a look at the
  file "spec_cpw24.jpg" that
  was supplied with this PMR, and look at the sketch
  4.4.1.2.4. It should help understand the text
  below:
  
  The arrow is pointing on the top of the part. This
  is because we only allow welding to be done from
  the top, we
  do not allow to weld from the bottom. This is why
  there is no "weld joint" symbol on the "other
  side".
  
  The sketch shows that the weld is going all the
  way through the part. This means that there will be
  welding material protruding from the bottom. We
  need to control the shape and dimension of that
  material. This is why we
  need to specify a finish contour and a finishing
  method on the bottom of the
  part.
  Note: the sketch supplied was scanned from
  the "CPW24" which  is the official document we use
  to control welding for all the aircraft engines we
  manufacture.
  .
  Update From LESOURD Jerome
  Hello
  Level1,
  
  could you explain me what is
  the "CPW24"?
  Is it a norm/standard? derived from
  ANSI?
  What is the standard used by the
  customer?
  Thanks for your
  cooperation.
  Best Regards, Jerome
  LESOURD.
  *** Electronic update by
  customer
  ***
  
  Hi,
  The "CPW24" is an internal document used in
  xxx that explains in detail the
  requirements for production of
  welds on all xxx engine parts.
  It is based on ANSI standards and on the AWS
  (American Welding
  Society) A2.4
  document (available from the American Welding
  Society,
  2501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, FL
  33125).
  
  .
  

Problem conclusion

Temporary fix

Comments

• THE PROBLEM WAS SUBMITTED ON :
  CATIA VERSION * RELEASE *.
  THIS PROBLEM IS NOT REPRODUCIBLE ON :
  CATIA VERSION 5 RELEASE 14 GA level
  The correction has already been delivered
  
  .
  

APAR Information

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Fix information

• Fixed component name

  CATIA V5/NT/200

• Fixed component ID

  569151000

Applicable component levels

• R513 PSN

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